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	<title>Comments on: Civony: Gold farmers go first-party</title>
	<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/</link>
	<description>Maybe they'll listen to REASON</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 08:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rnr</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2643</link>
		<dc:creator>rnr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2643</guid>
		<description>I'm a game developer (technical artist) and have played Evony for a couple months while I worked from home, and was looking for a free fun game to play.

Evony isn't Fun and it certainly isn't Free.

This game would only take a couple of people a few weeks to make even if they didn't lift most of the graphics or the source code.
It doesn't do anything special and some things like the User Inferface are so badly designed it will make you tear your hair out.
The gameplay and mechanics have been tweaked into helping you part with your money. It is possible to get to the end without spending a penny, but the majority of players wouldn't have the patience.
They've put priority to adding features to make them more money, like vacation mode. Pay to NOT play. That sums up their development.

The pricing is outrageous, to put it into perspective, its like iTunes charging you $300 per track.
A typical full feature MMO charges a $15-20 subscription per month, so why are people spending $1000-$5000 on this game?
The $5 package deal probably had the most uptake since it appears to be a bargain. Once you've bought something, it makes the decision easier to then spend more to protect your "investment".

I don't have anything against micro-transaction games, if you're getting value for money, but this isn't one of them.


It just "feels" like a game that has aggressively gone out to get as many "punters" in the shortest amount of time, and fleece them before the bubble bursts.

They're VERY protective of their fat cash cow. ca-ching!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a game developer (technical artist) and have played Evony for a couple months while I worked from home, and was looking for a free fun game to play.</p>
<p>Evony isn&#8217;t Fun and it certainly isn&#8217;t Free.</p>
<p>This game would only take a couple of people a few weeks to make even if they didn&#8217;t lift most of the graphics or the source code.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t do anything special and some things like the User Inferface are so badly designed it will make you tear your hair out.<br />
The gameplay and mechanics have been tweaked into helping you part with your money. It is possible to get to the end without spending a penny, but the majority of players wouldn&#8217;t have the patience.<br />
They&#8217;ve put priority to adding features to make them more money, like vacation mode. Pay to NOT play. That sums up their development.</p>
<p>The pricing is outrageous, to put it into perspective, its like iTunes charging you $300 per track.<br />
A typical full feature MMO charges a $15-20 subscription per month, so why are people spending $1000-$5000 on this game?<br />
The $5 package deal probably had the most uptake since it appears to be a bargain. Once you&#8217;ve bought something, it makes the decision easier to then spend more to protect your &#8220;investment&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have anything against micro-transaction games, if you&#8217;re getting value for money, but this isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>It just &#8220;feels&#8221; like a game that has aggressively gone out to get as many &#8220;punters&#8221; in the shortest amount of time, and fleece them before the bubble bursts.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re VERY protective of their fat cash cow. ca-ching!</p>
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		<title>By: ErdTirdMans</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2578</link>
		<dc:creator>ErdTirdMans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2578</guid>
		<description>L: I'm assuming you're a sock puppet\bot, but i'll respond anyway:

I enjoy paying for games.  I enjoy developers receiving money for creating an entertaining experience for me to enjoy.  They deserve it for their hard work.

Evony is neither an enjoyable experience nor did its developers do any hard work besides reverse engineering a copyrighted game in China and repackaging it as their own - blatant infringement - and, of course, coming up with ways to dupe their players through misleading advertising and prices.

And to exonerate them with the broad strokes of "all developers steal" and "all companies exist to make money" shows a clear bias and misunderstanding of what constitutes IP theft and fair business practices.  The game is a direct clone. Cloning and reselling an entire game is different than finding inspiration in a mechanic from another source.

Either you're overreacting to my post's comedic presentation or you're underreacting to being fleeced by Chinese thieves.  Regardless of which: you're wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L: I&#8217;m assuming you&#8217;re a sock puppet\bot, but i&#8217;ll respond anyway:</p>
<p>I enjoy paying for games.  I enjoy developers receiving money for creating an entertaining experience for me to enjoy.  They deserve it for their hard work.</p>
<p>Evony is neither an enjoyable experience nor did its developers do any hard work besides reverse engineering a copyrighted game in China and repackaging it as their own - blatant infringement - and, of course, coming up with ways to dupe their players through misleading advertising and prices.</p>
<p>And to exonerate them with the broad strokes of &#8220;all developers steal&#8221; and &#8220;all companies exist to make money&#8221; shows a clear bias and misunderstanding of what constitutes IP theft and fair business practices.  The game is a direct clone. Cloning and reselling an entire game is different than finding inspiration in a mechanic from another source.</p>
<p>Either you&#8217;re overreacting to my post&#8217;s comedic presentation or you&#8217;re underreacting to being fleeced by Chinese thieves.  Regardless of which: you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2576</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-2576</guid>
		<description>come on people most of you make it sound the makers of evony are the end of the world offcourse they try to make money who doenst these days and about stealing if you have trubel about that stop using any software all the software companies steal from eachother.
And you dont have to put monney in the game to be strong im ranked top 100 in 2 servers and didnt put any monney in it . and even when you put monney in it compare it the games for ps3 you pay 40 euro for a game and your sick of it after a few weeks so even if you put monney in the game its stil cheaper then most other gammes. and about the inactive people on the server its only the first 2 weeks on a server then they will be deleted the only thing i hate about evony is the how they try to get people to join evony whit sexy animated girls if you like those i like the real stuf more  


if you like games like civilization series you like this game its just a fun game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>come on people most of you make it sound the makers of evony are the end of the world offcourse they try to make money who doenst these days and about stealing if you have trubel about that stop using any software all the software companies steal from eachother.<br />
And you dont have to put monney in the game to be strong im ranked top 100 in 2 servers and didnt put any monney in it . and even when you put monney in it compare it the games for ps3 you pay 40 euro for a game and your sick of it after a few weeks so even if you put monney in the game its stil cheaper then most other gammes. and about the inactive people on the server its only the first 2 weeks on a server then they will be deleted the only thing i hate about evony is the how they try to get people to join evony whit sexy animated girls if you like those i like the real stuf more  </p>
<p>if you like games like civilization series you like this game its just a fun game</p>
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		<title>By: NFOpocalypse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kingory is not copycat. (EvonyCivony v2.0)</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>NFOpocalypse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kingory is not copycat. (EvonyCivony v2.0)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1759</guid>
		<description>[...] If you&#8217;re not up to speed on CivonyEvony, you might consider reading my original post, and both of my updates before taking the plunge [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] If you&#8217;re not up to speed on CivonyEvony, you might consider reading my original post, and both of my updates before taking the plunge [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: ErdTirdMans</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>ErdTirdMans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1758</guid>
		<description>And as a result, a boring, annoying, scam of a game developed by plagiarizing, greedy, ethics-free, sexvertisement-loving, gold farmers becomes a fraction of an iota less troublesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as a result, a boring, annoying, scam of a game developed by plagiarizing, greedy, ethics-free, sexvertisement-loving, gold farmers becomes a fraction of an iota less troublesome.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1723</guid>
		<description>Evony is by far become much better. The GUI (graphical user interface) has changed greatly and they attempt to make it cheaper to buy cents. They give bonus packages and ways to increase the amount you get for your money. Yes in the beginning it was cheap, but now its grown to a large player base with many servers. They pretty much had to change the user interface or well face loosing players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evony is by far become much better. The GUI (graphical user interface) has changed greatly and they attempt to make it cheaper to buy cents. They give bonus packages and ways to increase the amount you get for your money. Yes in the beginning it was cheap, but now its grown to a large player base with many servers. They pretty much had to change the user interface or well face loosing players.</p>
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		<title>By: ErdTirdMans</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator>ErdTirdMans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1689</guid>
		<description>I hope Chaz Patterson is a troll.

Bruce: I posted a suggested response as a comment to your blog.  If I make another Evony post, I'll be sure to include some notes about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Chaz Patterson is a troll.</p>
<p>Bruce: I posted a suggested response as a comment to your blog.  If I make another Evony post, I&#8217;ll be sure to include some notes about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruceongames</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruceongames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1688</guid>
		<description>Now Evony have solicitors on the job trying to get rid of the truth: http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Evony have solicitors on the job trying to get rid of the truth: <a href="http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bruceongames.com/2009/08/25/evony-want-to-sue-me-for-telling-the-truth/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chaz Patterton</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>Chaz Patterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1686</guid>
		<description>Awesome, I was getting tired of the cookie cutter MMORPGs, WoW, RoM, etc. I think it's cool you can build up a castle of your own &#38; raid others. can you post a link to the game site so I can get the download? Thanks in advance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, I was getting tired of the cookie cutter MMORPGs, WoW, RoM, etc. I think it&#8217;s cool you can build up a castle of your own &amp; raid others. can you post a link to the game site so I can get the download? Thanks in advance</p>
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		<title>By: Individual and Community &#187; Blog Archive &#187; company behind EVONY</title>
		<link>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Individual and Community &#187; Blog Archive &#187; company behind EVONY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/#comment-1542</guid>
		<description>[...] good honest review here: http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] good honest review here: <a href="http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nfopocalypse.com/index.php/2009/05/13/civony-gold-farmers-go-first-party/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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